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UPDATED: Warriors beat East Carolina for fifth place

Just two weeks into what was supposed to be a season of uncertainty, the University of Hawai’i basketball team has discovered that a certain toughness can go a long way.

In lieu of practice, the Warriors relied on guts and grit in a 75-73 victory over East Carolina in the consolation title game of the Gulf Coast Showcase. Hawai’i improved to 6-2 overall, including 2-1 and fifth place in this tournament. East Carolina, which is a member of Conference USA, dropped to 3-3.

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The trip to Estero, Florida, marked the UH program’s first road trip to the Eastern Time Zone in more than a decade (last time was the 2004 NIT at Michigan).

“To go 2-1 in this tournament is pretty special,” acting head coach Benjy Taylor said. “Based on everything we went through to get here, the caliber of teams here … it’s special. We just need to get home and get some rest now.”

The victory capped a stretch of eight games in 13 days to open the season for the Warriors. This road trip started with an upset of Pittsburgh on Maui on November 21.

Because of the grueling schedule, the Warriors’ last full practice was in the Stan Sheriff Center on November 18. “The last four games, we haven’t practiced because we haven’t had the time to practice,” Taylor said.

In preparation for East Carolina, the Warriors sat through a film session the night before the game. They did not even participate in a pre-game “shoot-around” due to the early start of the game (2:30 p.m. Eastern Time).

“These guys are tired and I thought it would be better to save what ever legs they had left for the game,” Taylor explained. “But we went through the films, we talked a lot about it, told the kids what they needed to do offensively and defensively, and they did it. They did it.”

Fittingly, it took a balanced team effort. Eight players saw action, and all eight scored.

Senior guard Garrett Nevels led Hawai’i with 19 points and nine. Aaron Valdes added 15 points and nine rebounds, Negus Webster-Chan had 11 points and four rebounds, and Roderick Bobbitt contributed 10 points, six rebounds and six assists.

Mike Thomas added nine points on 4-of-5 shooting, and reserves Quincy Smith (four points, three rebounds), Stefan Jovanovic (four points, three rebounds) and Dyrbe Enos (three points) also made key contributions.

“I told everybody to be ready,” Taylor said. “The core guys, I kept checking on them to see how they were feeling and asked them to let me know every time they needed a breather. They all gutted it out.”

Hawai’i led by as many as 11 points early in the second half, surrendered the lead briefly, took the lead back, then held off a late rally in the closing minutes by the Pirates.

The undersized Warriors were strong on the boards, out-rebounding East Carolina 41-29. Hawai’i also shot 45.9 percent from the field and committed just 10 turnovers while passing for 13 assists.

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The Warriors shot 51.9 percent from the field and 85.7 percent (6 for 7) from the free-throw line in the first half, and took a 38-29 lead at intermission. The Pirates shot 44.4 percent from the field, and did not attempt any free throws in the first half.

Hawai’i went on an 8-0 run in the final three minutes of the first half, with Nevels scoring five of those points.

The Warriors increased the lead to 11 (46-35) early in the second half, but the Pirates cut it to 48-43 moments later.

Hawai’i had a 52-43 lead with 14:33 remaining, but the Pirates rallied with a stunning 13-2 run over the next six minutes to overtake the Warriors, 56-54, with 8:18 left.

The game was tied at 58 when the Warriors went on a 7-0 run to establish a 65-58 lead with 4:51 remaining. Quincy Smith capped the run when he stole an inbounds pass and made a layup.

The Warriors went just 4 for 9 from the free-throw line in the final minute, allowing the Pirates to get as close as 74-71 with 10 seconds remaining. Bobbitt made one of two free throws with nine seconds remaining to give the Warriors a 75-71 lead, then East Carolina’s B.J. Tyson put in an offensive rebound at the buzzer to make the final score 75-73.

The Warriors had three other players available in reserve (Niko Filipovich, Isaac Fleming and Brandon Jawato), but Taylor said it was a “coach’s decision” not to use them in this game.

The Warriors are scheduled to make the long return trip back to Honolulu on Thanksgiving Day. Their next game is scheduled for December 2 against Delaware State at the Stan Sheriff Center.

“We have some guys who are finally going to get to sleep tonight, I think,” Taylor said. “The travel over here was tough and some of the guys never adjusted after we got on that redeye (flight). That’s why this is so special. This team really had to dig deep this week.”

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Gulf Coast Showcase
Seventh place: Marist 68, Fresno State 64
Fifth place: Hawai’i 75, East Carolina 73
Third place: Evansville 79, San Francisco 72
Championship: Green Bay 59, Florida Gulf Coast 45

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UH Basketball East Coast History

The University of Hawai’i basketball program started playing mostly collegiate opponents starting in the 1966-67 season.

Since then and prior to this season, UH teams were 4-21 in games played in the Eastern Time Zone. Three of those wins came from the “Fabulous Five” teams of the early 1970s (won at St. John’s in 1971, defeated Oklahoma at the NIT in New York in 1971, and won at Connecticut in 1972).

The only other previous victory came in 2003, in a “BracketBusters” game at Kent State.

This UH team went 2-1 at the Gulf Coast Showcase, with the two wins coming against teams from the Eastern Time Zone (Marist and East Carolina). Thus, Hawai’i now has an all-time record of 6-22 in games played in the Eastern Time Zone.

Also, prior to this trip, Hawai’i teams had been 0-4 in games played in the state of Florida.

48 Comments

  1. Fleming must be in the dog house. Good win on the road.

  2. Stronger When I.F. Earns His Way Back…

    Team Finding Ways to WIN

    Out-Shooting, Out-Quicking, Out-Rebounding Bigger Teams

  3. Congrats guys! Winning 3 of 4 games away from SSC and in 6 days showed the heart of the UHMBB Warriors! That is also winning 6 of 8 games in 13 days – toughest opening schedule in D-1 college basketball. Incredible! Have a safe trip home and get some needed rest for the rest of the non-conference schedule. GO WARRIORS!

  4. Eagle to be honest i dont know if its in his best interest.If he didn’t have exams i would fly him home but academics comes first basketball will take care of it self.

  5. Was able to catch it on radio. Thought those guys were pretty good in describing the action. Fair and we’ll prepared.
    Great win guys. Used to be we would wait for the melt down. Not with this team. Nice Co please if road wins in neutral court.
    Isaac, your brothers need you. Take care of what you need to and get back on the court. US fans really enjoy your play.
    I am really proud of you guys. Wow!!
    Two road wins in a row.

    Go Bows!!!!!!

  6. That was another nail biter. To win on the road way over there like that is a major achievement. All contributed to the good play in all three games . Quincy showed played well today, contrary to criticism of him in earlier games on another forum .

  7. Yes!! Yes!! Next up Delaware state then the big game byu. Gonna need Fleming for byu because byu took #15 San diego st to 2 OT before losing and routed Pittsburgh 74-57

  8. Yes. Flemming is a VERY special player.
    High rebound guys Nevels and Valdes. We know Valdes is always there, and with a little help from Nevels, we win the game, just like against Pitt. Its the activeness.
    Nevels still not hitting the 3 like last year. Maybe it is the system. Still new.
    Excellent win on the road.

  9. Missed the game, but saw the box score and scanned through the play-by-play. For a team that’s probably operating on fumes, it showed a lot of mental toughness to pull out closely contested games the past two days. Two wins after flying coast-to-coast is remarkable. And in an eight-team tournament, it’s always better to be the fifth-place winner (2-1) than the third-place loser (1-2).

  10. Without some guys.. Dyrbe and Niko were huge part of close wins against ECU and Marist College.
    As BM says, quite frankly, remarkable, however WI UH MBB, not WBB nation which is for their OWN site, twitter ,facebook.. We believe.. UH just give effort, stay together. get healthy AND listen to coaches.. quite Amazing

    Welcome Home Warriors !! The plane ride.. hey maybe you don’t need Plane, just flying sky high.. very tired. and drink lots of water, sleep, don’t get sick and hit the books for fall semester Finals !!

    Great Win, the first chapter of a Great Novel, the Wounded Warrior MBB program, Healing and getting Better !!
    Go Bows !!
    🙂

  11. sorry fanof15C, or joy? UH-75 ECU-72.. well whether 2 points or 22 … a Win on the road, far, far away.. by everything that could destroy them.. Now have to get. IF, BJ, Stef Janks, healthy and on board the train for MBB heights..

    Now back to ground zero.. UH good job.. tremendous odds against you.
    Benjy, Que, Autry, Loyd , and staff , great , great job keeping the guys on ONE PAGE, and Eagle, THEY FINISHED STRONG !!

    🙂

  12. bigdaddy: You are a Good Father, yes the academics, and getting things in order, maturing. Isaac will be okay, with support from you and your ohana(family). Isaac is quite an impressive athlete. Benjy doing good job with staff, tutors, and support from UH instructors., make sure all the MBB team is okay.
    As you say: things will take care of itself.. Isaac Fleming, Agent Zero “0”, will be back.
    You are correct too, bigdaddy, Do All of us, family, fans, friends, I am sure the College Coaching fraternity, are looking at what little UH MBB program, despite the goings on before, and with another HC and staff, doing with great athletes, outworking bigger and very athletic teams From the East.. Will only help UH when they get back Jawato Healthy 6’4″ 210 3 ball shooter, Jankovich, stretch 5, and Isaac Fleming, all ready to go, and make a run towards a Special Season.

    Been following like some other 40+ year fans of UH MBB for so long time, Never have I seen a team bond like this..Incredible.. Good job MBB team and Benjy.. I tell you Ben Jay, come BWC time maybe 2 games in, see how he doing, then lock him in for 2 years..

    Go Rainbow Warriors !
    And bigdaddy you are a Good Daddy to Isaac Fleming !!

  13. The American One Sports online free registration, and purchase package free, the stream is steady, Video quality like old SD TV …old CRT, sound not too good or not in sync, so I just watch the live action play, just like at SSC if I could go.. incredible, game. Plus American One Sports, the Free Account, check it, and maybe for a day or so, they have it there to watch, a virtual DVR, so here I go and watching end of game on the replay.. Very good that had the stream, pretty sure Brian, Dayton, Rob, Kanoa, Robert K., Mike C, all the sports guys, and the Hoops , well Those buggahs, they watching too. Incredible.
    American One Sports online stream, legit company, have used before watch UH games in past 2 years.

    Well that is my endorsement.. the DVR play back feature neat, you can rewind or pause play and come back and watch game.. Incredible technology, thankful that somebody, an entity, had the stream. Radio is fine.. too.

    Welcome Back Benjy’s Boys.. Go For the Gold, the Fantastic 15 plus legion of growing and believing fans.. don’t want 1995 in attendance for next home game against Delaware St. however, unless theme night, and work night, school night, hope that 3500 will show. .Team deserves support, for those that can go, and That Means 900 students too !!

    Go Warriors Bows.
    warriorhaw, clyde, TAVS, Derek, Chuck, Baller4, I mean it is a Great , Great run by UH MBB team so far, and Benjy doing heck of a job with timeout calling too !!
    🙂

  14. Here we go again , another bigger athletic team from east… bigdaddy ! DELAWARE State, Know anything about that team from your side of USA? UH next home game Tuesday Dec 2nd 2014 at SSC.

    Roster: 2-2 ? record..
    5 Tyshawn Bell F 6-7 215 Sr. Dover, Del. (Maine Central Institute) (Caesar Rodney)
    55 Charles Burley PG 5-10 185 Sr. Wilmington, Del. (Cecil Community College) (Howard HS/Glasgow HS)
    22 Aric Dickerson G/F 6-6 200 Jr. Chicago, Ill. (Lee College/West Virgina) (St. Thomas More Prep)
    20 Mrdjan Gasevic F/C 6-7 235 So. Mladenovac, Serbia (KK Mladenovac)
    1 Kendall Gray C 6-10 240 Sr. Dover, Del. (Polytech)
    21 Larry Haley G 6-3 190 Jr. Largo, Md., (Frederick Community College) (IMG Academy)
    11 DeAndre Haywood G 6-2 200 So. Paterson, N.J. (Paterson Eastside)
    35 Todd Hughes G 6-3 185 Fr. Smyrna, Del. (Sanford School)
    44 Amere May G 6-3 185 Sr. Covert, Mich. (Covert HS)
    23 Jason Owens F 6-6 232 Jr. Seaford, Del. (Seaford HS)
    3 Scott Sill F 6-9 215 So. Windsor, Conn (Windsor HS/Charls Prep)
    25 Artem Tavakalyan F 6-6 210 Fr. Moscow, Russia (Florida Air Academy)
    0 Quincy Tillinghast G 6-0 160 Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio (Creative & Performing Arts)
    4 Kris Walden G 6-1 180 Jr. Richmond, Va. (Towson Univ. ) (Potomac HS; Henrico HS)
    10 Kavon Waller F 6-5 210 Fr. Chester, Va. (Thomas Dale HS)
    2 Kendal Williams PG 6-0 160 Sr. Stone Mountain, Ga. (Baltimore City Comm. College) (Dover HS)

  15. Hey bigdaddy, Isaac has a chance to be part of one of the special stories in college hoops this season. The early signs are already there. I’ve watched UH basketball for 24 years and never seen a team quite like this one. Against amazing odds, they are coming together and making good things happen. To be 6-2 with three road wins and a victory over Pitt… that’s a heck of a start, and Isaac helped get them there. Sure there will be some bumps along the way for him as a true freshman, but that’s part of the growing-up process, not only for him but for his teammates and even his coaches. Whatever the deal is right now between Isaac and Coach Benjy, the solution is the same as always: hard work, positive attitude, and team first. Running away never solves problems, it only puts them off. Keep the faith, and when Isaac next checks into a game at the Stan Sheriff Center, several thousand UH fans and hundreds of his fellow students will be cheering loudly for his success. Including yours truly.

  16. HawaiiMongoose:

    As always.. “Words of Wisdom”… yes, Isaac Fleming, we need you, work with and for UH MBB, the band of brothers, with a great coach in Benjy Taylor.. Things will resolve, and come BWC time,.. make that run brothers !!

    H-Mongoose, you always have something good to say, so appreciated, by maybe thousands(?)that view this MBB fan site.

    Things will work out.. UH MBB on train bound for good season, bet that Espn, CNN, Foxsports, , UH just keep on rolling against the odds, even the local Sports, and Dumb Oceanic for not televising live the Pitt game, really dumb, however the past..

    Go Bows..and thanks H-Mongoose, Wise Words Indeed.
    We need, Hawaii needs All the guys On Board Together. for a Special Season !!
    🙂

  17. Isaac is a popular player with the fans on the team.
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    On another note, is Jackson W ready to eat mynah bird (crow) or too early yet ? What is he going to laugh about now ?

    In his pre-season review with Jeff P., he by-passed Jovanovic, mixing him up with Janks and i think didn’t think much of Thomas .

  18. islandman: Hoops Balkers.. Jeff P. (BOR leaker supreme) and Jackson W., UH will probably be fighting for 8th place to get into BWC tourney, Jovanovich not skilled, MT, very thin, etc, etc.. loss of Fotu, UH falls apart, SR injury, team discipline, yada, yada, yada, Tonite Hoops Balk? What they going say? Great win, great win.. however, they going lose BYU, and 2 games in DHC, don’t tell that to Benjy’s team, the more that they are up against, It doesn’t matter if Dyrbe, Niko, Mike, AV and Nevels starting.. they will battle and learn, and starting to win.

    Stef Jovanovich one of if not the best FT shooter on team, he rebounds, he is big, and bangs the other bigs, he blocks some shots, alters others, passes out to perimeter, he can, AND DID YOU NOTICE that Jack and Jeff? Stef shoots his jump hook with either left or right hand.. He IS a Huge part.. And Mike and Aaron, are really coming into their own.. NWC and G Money, Bobbitt, Quincy’s defense, this team is really amazing.

    Jackson, ha, ha, ha, ha, blahhhhh !! UH and Benjy , Team, don’t listen to those Two Mockers, supposedly Supporters of Benjy and the Team, The fans, the families, the coaching staff and the die hard faithful fans, WE got the team’s back.

    Jackson, and Jeff, what a bunch …

    Seriously, Mike, Stefan , and Aaron, and Dyrbe as Soph. they are playing well and helping UH get wins,.. good job by old and newbies
    Stef when Stef II (Janks) comes on board.. wow, Mr inside and Mr outside, or Mr outside and Mr Inside, ? Serbian triplets, help UH MBB, Niko, Janks and Stef

  19. Unfortunately we do not have all the information but I would like to know more about I.F. situation. Issac could easily end up being the starter next season taking bevels place so I would hate to see him cut him ties here on hopefully minor adjustments from both sides. Being a parent I understand the my word is law approach, but understanding what my children are thinking and why can help me bend my stance. I hope Isaac decides to work threw this challenge and stays as part of this Ohana here. I personally care for all the players well being and is it is not in Issacs overall best interest to there will be no animosity in our eyes. We hope the best for him and you, but I hope he stays because we need him.

  20. Was it four years ago now? Gib had Bobby Miles guard Shamburger when Sham was playing for San Jose, the year before he transferred. He played a smothering defense. Totally outplayed Sham, AND helped out on other players. Perfect D, but OH what energy!. To run and play that hard, playing D, there is no way that a player could do that for the whole game. At least you wouldn’t think so. When players assess themselves and their Defense, they almost always assess their play over an entire game, or half. They could put more energy into it, in spurts, but it is MUCH too very strenuous to play at that frenetic pace, for too long. It seemed Gib played Miles for 5 minutes, then rested him, then put him back in, then rested him, then put him back in. Maybe the players offense suffers a bit. Perhaps all that rebounding is taking its toll on Nevels 3pt shot. My advice, keep at it, it will come.
    I keep thinking that with so many guards, we could have them play at that frenetic pace, and sub out when they need a breather. Bobby Miles alone, playing at that pace, upset that San Jose offense so that they were visibly flustered.
    I guess there are no cameras on the road from which Dayton could post some video. Got to wait till they get home.

  21. Benji was on sports animals, said it was a coach’s decision regarding Isaac, something about it’s team first and they’ll work it out in Honolulu. Said he’s family and they love him .

  22. Like I said, team (family) matter. I gotta admit that Benjy has been a pleasant surprise so far. Keeping team together, making good in game decisions. Let it go folks. We would like to know but we don’t need to know. If team, coach, and player can move on then so should we. Enjoy the W. Hope team and coaches have safe trip back and Happy Thanksgiving. Go Bows!

  23. I completely agree with HawaiiMongoose about Isaac and his advice for bigdaddy. Isaac is a true freshman and sometimes things like these are growing pains. He has a fantastic future with this team and I also see him as taking over the 2 guard spot next year. What evers happened happened. Cant change it now so just learn. I think it was not anything serious because the story above writes that he was still on the bench and available. Good thing he was not left at the hotel or sent home because then we would know it was serious.

    This team can win a lot of games without Isaac Fleming but they can win a lot more with him in there. Hang in there Isaac and bigdaddy and you will not regret it. As HawaiiMongoose said this is a special story happening out here in Hawaii this year!

  24. ChuckCheese :

    Yes, I believe the fans of UH MBB, with this great story being written, like the Hoosier Movie, yet more challenging, UH MBB, hurt, wounded, down guys, some ups and downs. , young guys new guys, as Benjy said, I am really impressed what he and staff are doing , ONE OHANA and Finish Strong Still keeping the Mantra going. Not about self, stats, PT, it is about winning as a Team, doing well in school, and being part of family. Benjy, helped recruit Isaac, Que is a good assistant work with and develop these special guys from all over the globe and USA.. very special.

    Family matter, saw him on bench on live video stream, plus yesterday, he was applauding when Team was closing out win against Marist. teaching and learning moment.. Maturing the whole Team.. Isaac Fleming, will be okay, He has a great dad , ohana and friends.. very sure team treat him like a brother.. You watch, when Jawato, healthy, Janks and Fleming, get going. team will be ready for DHC..they have surprised even the die hard fans.. We never gave up hope, and You Know why? Who spurred us on to not give up on new coach and team? Mamma Valdes’ letter and impassioned plea.. Back the Bows. Support the Coach and team.

    Band of Brothers.. agree Chuck.. there are still some that want to knock team down, and disrupt program, and athletes.. this group going to fight as a FAMILY..
    Look forward to Isaac being there for next game for the TEAM.. he will be okay.

    Go Bows. and Warrior Time, incredible first 8 games, next 8, should be just as exciting with more help(Janks and healthy Jawato )on the way…!!
    🙂

  25. Benji said they took a red eye flight to Florida,were tired, couldn’t practice went to a banquet, was it Sunday?, had study hall and couldn’t sleep on Monday and were gassed for the game vs USF, in the 2nd half. Hope they had a good banquet, since UH reportedly had to pay $25,000 to play in the tournament, which turned out to be worthwhile, though.

    Laura Beeman said the Wahine have a banquet at the Marriott tomorrow (for their tournament ?) They will be playing Prairie View, No. 5 Stanford and No. 11 UNC .

  26. Looking forward to those Wahine games! Laura is doing a heck of a job too.

  27. Need any outside shooters besides Niko or Enos ? Local boy Josh Ko of Pitt is 1 for 1 on three pointers, he made it today vs. Kansas St.
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    UH rebounders are really quick when they go for rebounds.

  28. UH MBB guards and forwards, and Jovanovich really follow Benjy’s mantra…philosophy. .rebound as team
    Valdes and Nevels great defensive and offensive rebounders..online video stream game Nevels so quick and vert , he had couple key offensive rebound putbacks to keep UH in the lead..you have guards that can get 10 rebounds huge..taking place of Standhardinger and Fotu
    hey..remember Fab five not tall frontline however great nose for ball
    Nash 30 rebound game against Arizona St. in 1971 RBC probably never broken..however as team UH MBB team outrebounding bigger and athletic teams
    same plan going against Irvine and UCSB Williams

    Incredible..they are doing it
    UH MBB could easily be 8-0
    However 6-2 against all odds
    fantastic!!
    🙂

  29. Jawato…Niko…Isaac…on bench…coach decision not to use them…team thing…they learn..and be back ..I guess..actually 3 guys not just 1…

    Keep team focused..together..

  30. Something started years ago with Frank Arnolds teams. He wanted to change the look of Hawaii and bring in Freshman players and bring them along. For years, Hawaii only knew Junior College Transfers, who came in great or not. It was rare that someone greatly improved in one year.
    Gib started bringing in Freshman, who he believed had potential.
    Jackson W and Jeff P are stuck in one gear. I have no doubt that Jovanovich will improve, and having a smart big that can go both right and left is very good. And MT, came in at what 5’10” and now he is 6’10, oh wait, 6’5 and now is 6’8, quicker, and somewhere along the line learned how to shoot. He is going to be better next year, and who knows, may grow some more. He is alright now. We might really be in trouble now if he was still 6’5″. That was one of those things that Frank Arnold knew that none of us thought of. No one I know at least. Issac Fleming is a very special Freshman, clearly with skills, attitude, and belief that he can take anyone to the hoop. Brandon Jawato was special when he came in. But for the injury, he might be starting.
    Unlike Jackson W. and Jeff P., I am now buying in to this ‘recruiting of Freshman’ method of running a team. Many things are different.

  31. I didn’t want to leave anyone out, Fr., So., but I was starting to get long winded, and I think I made the point. Deference to Niko, Negus, Janks, Dyrbe, … Brock, Zach, … oh yeah, and Valdes, … and Sammis.
    It’s a different mind set.

  32. I hope Coach Benjy, Coach Senque, Coach Loyd, and Coach Autry buy into this part of Gibs legacy. Bringing in Freshman.
    We will even have a few more years to think about it. (And hoepfully build on it !)

  33. Need balance in recruiting. All I can say is Zane Johnson, Brandon Spearman, Christian Standhardinger, Garret Nevels, Roderick Bobbitt, Keith Shamburger. Last few years not built solely on freshman. As for previous years let me add Carl English, Phil Martin, Alika Smith, mike McIntyre, etc. we tend to lose perspective as years go by. Mix of jc, freshman, transfers is how it will always work, to strictly rely on building through freshman never gonna happen. And Feank Arnold not the best example of how to build a team. His model was not exactly a booming success.

  34. Yes, of course, balance. That is real.
    But it was not balanced before. And, yes, never turn down a Tom Henderson or Roderick Bobbitt.
    But the Jackson W’s and Jeff P’s of this world are dogging the Bows because of a jilted mindset that is not giving props to our Valdes’s and MT’s and Flemings’s and Jovanovich’s, etc. Just trying to make the case for balance.
    And of course, actually getting good ones. Where apparently Gib excelled.

  35. Regardless, Gib changed the paradigm, he was able to recruit freshmen and quality JC players as well as get quality transfers.

    Wanted to support all the comments regarding I.F. he has a huge upside. At the same time not surprised he was given a time out. Went to one of the games in SSC and observed he sometimes overreacts (IMO) and has to be calmed down by other players and coaches. It’s part of the growing process. So hang in there I.F., these are life lessons that will serve you well in the future.

    If you all recall, per Coach June Jones, “you may be the best coach, “but” without good players you are not going to win.” So hurrah to Coach Benji, he has the players and watch out for Janks when he takes the court, he’ll be GREAT or a bust – no in between (IMO).

  36. Note, i think Jackson W did say he thought Fleming was a good prospect and i think that Valdes had ability but they wondered who would be the point guard this season .

  37. islandman what happen in florida was minor Isaac & Q came 10min late to team breakfast they got bench without communication Q handled the situation with maturity Isaac got frustrated and shut down a comment was made Isaac took offense.From a parent perspective knowing Isaac it was best that he not play against ECU.

  38. bigdaddy:

    Thanks for that. We know Benjy trying to Keep these guys together as Family. Know with
    the prep school experience, Isaac is a tough young man. Just learning experience. I went back and watched the Video DVR on American One free online stream, I saw yesterday, waaay in the background with arms around other guys, supporting them, and with his headband , at one point assistant coach, approached 3 guys at the end of bench who were not cheering, and he was telling them, get up and cheer on the team !! Or something that appeared like that. The 3 or 4 guys on the bench, though they wanted to be in there, for rest of the game they were fully cheering on the guys on court..shows me something,, the Coaches are on top of Making Sure Team is ONE FAMILY..

    Isaac and all the guys, remember after firing of Gib, this is all new, just 2 weeks or so, in, and they still win 6.. almost 7 out of 8 games in 12 days,,long distance incredible..

    Thanks again, about Isaac, he will be okay, this team stay together and get better every practice and game, they going be alright.

    bigdaddy: Are you Familiar with any of players on Delaware State team playing Hawaii next Tues. Dec 2 2014 at SSC?

  39. Our memories are short. Gib changed paradigm and brought in”good” freshmen/jc? Like I said above, Riley brought in a few freshman an so pg’s that were pretty dang good. Good enough to win conference tourneys, beat top five teams, fill arena. Program did not begin with Gib. I know many here are staunch supporters of Gib and that is okay. But no need to rewrite history

  40. big daddy,
    thanks for the info. Isaac is a popular player with the fans, as you may know.
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    On another note, Nevels said, in an article today, that UH lost in the scrimmage with Div II BYUH that was held around Nov. 1. ( We had heard that they didn’t do too well in that scrimmage) UH plays Chaminade on Dec. 19 who is rated higher than BYUH.

    He was thinking at that time, “Man, it could a long season”. But they are “sticking with it” … and trying to get better as a team”.
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    Another article today, for those that have any interest, says that Shamburger keeps in touch with UH players Nevels and Valdes and he advised them after Gib was let go. Didn’t know he was that close to the team. I thought i saw a tweet on “I told you so”, after Gib was let go, but it’s not there anymore.

  41. Runbow yes Tyshaun,Big Kendal,Burley,Hughes .Tyshaun got the total package inside and out Kendal can be a force n the paint ,Burley very smart PG at 5’10 i talk to him last week he claims they are going to beat UH lol Huges a freshman that can light it up but lack confidence.

    UH should win this game i think the team is more athletic . Del State is going to try to slow the game down to their advantage.

  42. I hope Isaac learned a lesson. No matter how wrong your superior are……you are not to show frustration or take offense. Isaac will be spending the next 4 years playing big time college basketball and he will encounter tons and tons of moments where he disagrees with his coaches/teammates. Its the ability to take these moments and learn how to handle them that will help him grow.

    Isaac will be encounter similair situations in the real world and it is in Isaac’s best interest to learn to deal with this now. Right now he is only getting benched. In the real world he would get fired or even worst so I hope Issac understands what the coaches is trying to instill in him and don’t act if the coaches/teammates are out to get him.

  43. Delaware St. is rated No. 298 in the Pomeroy basketball ratings, while UH is now No. 198. I think UH has moved up the ratings.

  44. bigdaddy, thank you for the background info and thanks for being a part of this forum site. It sounds like it was a minor incident and Isaac will learn and be better for it. I hope he will get a chance to play against Delaware State and prove to everyone the kind of player and teammate he really is.

    I also hope that you are ignoring some of the trash being spread by one person with a personal agenda on another forum. It is just one person who is finally being exposed for who he really is and he has already been banned from here by Dayton.

  45. Happy Thanksgiving to All! Hope everyone have a special holiday. Go Bows!!!!

  46. I forgot to mention that I remember Isaac stating his loyalty to Benjy Taylor after all the you know what hit the fan. That told me that they have a good relationship and I am sure that is still true and everyone will stick together through this. Like said before, minor incident that is now in the past.

    We need you and your energy play Isaac! Time for Showtime again!

  47. bigdaddy – Mahalo – THANK You ON Thanksgiving

    Appreciate the Insider’s Coach AND Dad’s Perspective

    To Be Honest — I’ve Yelled At (For) Isaac, too
    On Maui his Throat Stomp probably accurately conveyed his Feelings & Frustrations with Pitt’s Players Harassing but coulda got him Ejected and Miss Another Game – Turns Out Missed ’em Anyway — But At Least Intentionally —
    What & How We Learn Matters …

    I’m Pretty Sure he’ll be a Better Player when He has Control and Can Use the Emotions And Verbal & Mental Gamesmanship Without IT Controlling or Running Him … AND (i think) he’s Smart Enough that it doesn’t need to take Years (Or Hopefully) Leaving His Hawai’i ‘Ohana…

    Good Day to be Thankful
    Six of Eight – With Half On The Road Is a Pretty Good to Great Thing
    Good to Great Coaches And Young, Talented & Genuinely Good Men And Players(!)
    Great WI.com Site with Amazing Insights Not Previously Available
    Is Also A Lot to be Thankful For – Mahalo ALL

  48. First off, congrats to the Warriors on a successful road trip as well as start to the season. At 6 – 2, you can’t really ask for more based on the shenanigans that went on pre-season and the rough early season schedule.

    Secondly, I’ve watched/listened to every single game thus far and wanted to make an early season assessment of the team…
    Negus – Has shown glimpses of brilliance, but not as consistent as we need him to be. He will be the X-factor on the team’s success this year!
    Nevels – Slow start on the year, we need him to really take the reins, especially since it’s his senior year
    Quincy – 110% guy but needs to work on free throws! Also some decision making, which will improve as the season progresses, I believe
    Bobbitt – I love this kid…heart and soul of the team. If we make the post-season this year, he’s going to have played a big role in getting us there
    Valdez – Pleasant surprise on the year, much improved, although I wonder why he didn’t get more playing time last season? He’s going to be fun to watch through the season
    Thomas – Also much improved, but really need to watch the fouls! Make your presence known but don’t let the refs take you out of the game
    Jovanavic – I believe he will make a big impact as a big rebound/put-back kinda guy. Don’t see him as being a go-to guy, although he’s shown glimpses of an around-the-rim game
    Enos – We need to take advantage of his perimiter shooting, especially if the inside game is struggling (which we will see continuously through the season)
    Fleming – Where you been bro? This guy plays w/his heart on his sleeve but I hope it didn’t get him into any trouble. We will need him down the stretch!
    Niko – I like what I’ve seen so far, why doesn’t he get more playing time?
    Jawato – Is this kid at full health yet? We will need him down the stretch

    Overall, I’d say lots of more good stuff to come out of this team, I love how they play and I think with all the athleticisim as well as perimiter depth, they will be tons of fun to watch. Can’t wait for Tuesday night’s game and watching the Warriors improve to 7 – 2. Let’s GO BOWS!!!

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